Does speaking in latin make rituals stronger?

Speaking in Latin does not make rituals stronger. The reason that people associate Latin with a lot of rituals is predominantly because many old occult texts were written in Latin because it was a common language that many scholars church officials and educated laymen spoke due to the fact that for several centuries the most common language the bible was translated into was Latin so regardless of your native language, the sorts of people who would know about these texts and be reading them would be be able to read Latin.

MerlinLeGrande said:

I heard that this is the case but i am not sure any thoughts about it.

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It depends on how much store you set by the Latin. Does reciting the Latin give you that extra buzz? Do you feel more present and more like 'something is going to happen' than when you use your ordinary tongue?

Then go for it!

CircleOfTheCrone said:

Speaking in Latin does not make rituals stronger. The reason that people associate Latin with a lot of rituals is predominantly because many old occult texts were written in Latin because it was a common language that many scholars church officials and educated laymen spoke due to the fact that for several centuries the most common language the bible was translated into was Latin so regardless of your native language, the sorts of people who would know about these texts and be reading them would be be able to read Latin.

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You should really practice magic in a language that you can actually speak and understand because if you don't know what you're saying Then the vocal aspect of ritual is not going to help focus your will ( there are exceptions, of course, But this is assuming that you're not performing Any form of rigid magic that does necessitate the usage of a specific language , in which case you should probably actually learn at least the basics of the language and what you are saying before you attempt the magic)

It doesn't make the rituals stronger per se...

but it can sound really cool, which on itself can be a catalyst.

Not really, it’s said that one should operate in their primary or more fluent language.

I heard any language other than english is strong but im not sure

In my opinion, the best rituals generally contain a mixture of one's first language along with a sacred language. These should not be mixed up just any old way, but deployed intelligently and artistically so that one is fully engaged with the ritual. Usually this means that the main "narration" of the ritual will be in your first language, with the sacred language used for various punctuating power phrases. If the ritual involves taking or giving any oaths, for example, this should be done in your first language, so that you are fully aware of what you are swearing. The value of the sacred language is multiple - first, it often does bear a special connection to a particular tradition that we are working in, so by using it, it helps us tap into that "current" - thereby empowering our spells with the blessings of the tradition. Second, encoding our meanings into forms that are not directly intelligible to our conscious mind seems to be a widely recurring and important magical practice. There are different speculations about why that is, but in my view it is about shifting that meaning out of our zone of personal power and out into the world/spirit world.

Latin is important in some religious and historical traditions, but speaking Latin does not, by itself, make rituals stronger. Its significance comes from tradition, symbolism, and the beliefs of the people performing the ritual, rather than from any demonstrated intrinsic power.

Alpaca said:

I heard any language other than english is strong but im not sure

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That is not ture. Why would English of all languages be inferior in occult practice?

Morell said:

That is not ture. Why would English of all languages be inferior in occult practice?

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let me float a theory: for English-speakers, because it's common and mundane. It might be that it's less about the particular language and more about the person's relationship to the language. There's nothing special about Latin such that you couldn't order a cup of coffee and kibitz about the weather in Latin, and there's nothing inherently vulgar or unspecial about English that you couldn't do magick in it. But I've found personally that a lot of my magickal practice is about designating a space and time as being autre, a world apart from the one I spend 99.9% of my time in. When I'm in my space that's just for magick, wearing clothes that are just for magick, saying things that are just for magick in a language I only use for magick, burning the incense that I bought for magick at the special day and time that I designated for magick there's no denying that I'm in that world instead of this one. It follows of course that for someone who doesn't speak English regularly they could be running rituals that include vernacular English to the same effect, and also that I might be saying the Latin equivalent of "Yo, Lucifer, what's good with it pimpin'? Tryna let your boy hold some of the good good til Friday?".

It's weird in my case. I've switched between Latin, old Slavonic, transliterations of Greek, Hebrew and also Arabic. I can't understand any of these languages except for a bit of Slavonic because it's similar to Russian (basic understanding).

I've noticed strange additional "juice" in Latin and Slavonic, something strong. This is what I feel when working with prayers, psalms, invocations. Maybe it's different for others, I don't know. Some people said they felt the same with Latin and Slavonic. Others mentioned Hebrew being strong.
These languages though without understanding much are slightly annoying to read. Everything goes like blablabla.

Where's the additional effect coming from, not sure. Perhaps egregores behind them? Latin and Slavonic are both used mostly in liturgies.

Maybe for some it's the mental programming, expectations, "special language" helps them get in the mode.

I use the PGM sometimes and try to work with the Greek, doing my best to adapt/pronounce it. I've attempted Ancient Greek a couple times but honestly doubt I get it right lol. Still, something about it puts me in the mood, gets me into that headspace people are describing here. That said, most of my ritual work I do in my own language. The barbarous words obviously stay untranslated (wouldn't even know how to begin with those haha).

MerlinLeGrande said:

I heard that this is the case but i am not sure any thoughts about it.

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If you believe it does, yes it most certainly does.

On an occult level, Latin is the language of order. The Romans outlawed many forms of magical practice in their ruling time prior to Christianity, and obviously the Mass and Catholic services have for centuries been intimately connected to the Latin language. The most orthodox Catholics disobey the papacy in keeping to the original Latin Mass with the St. Michael Prayer at the end. Therefore, as far as exorcism, or bringing your environment to order, especially following a ritual working, it is the best language to use.

Since it is the language of order, it can also be used to quickly reduce someone else’s life to chaos. Anything that brings order can also instill disorder.

Morell said:

It doesn't make the rituals stronger per se...

but it can sound really cool, which on itself can be a catalyst.

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Wait til you try Pig Latin

MerlinLeGrande said:

I heard that this is the case but i am not sure any thoughts about it.

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Probably not but it impresses the newbies in the group! In fact, in the Abramelin it says you should only speak in a language you understand. However, I was told by an enochian spirit to speak enochian when working with them. I've never noticed any real difference.